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Old November 6th, 2009, 10:44 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Army Psychiatrist Responsible for Mass Shooting at Fort Hood

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Army: Accused Fort Hood Shooter Alive -- Nidal Malik Hasan Accused Of Worst US Base Shooting Ever

FORT HOOD, Texas -- An Army psychiatrist set to be shipped overseas opened fire at the Fort Hood Army post Thursday, authorities said, a rampage that killed 12 people and left 31 wounded in the worst mass shooting ever at a military base in the United States.

The gunman, first said to have been killed, was wounded but alive and in stable condition under military guard, said Lt. Gen. Bob Cone at Fort Hood. "I would say his death is not imminent," Cone said. Col. Ben Danner said the suspect was shot at least four times.

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/21533160/detail.html
Wow...how ironic is that?

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Old November 6th, 2009, 01:44 PM   #2 (permalink)
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i think this guy definetley got pushed to the edge.... maybe like a self-fulfilling prophecy or whatever. like when somebody calls someone else a drunk then the other person will be like "ill show you drunk!!"
it's such a stupid thing, but maybe that's what happened....
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Old November 6th, 2009, 02:13 PM   #3 (permalink)
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What's interesting is that there is no mention whatsoever in that article about him being a muslim, whilst the bbc story mentions it several times:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8347501.stm


Sad story in any case.
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Old November 6th, 2009, 04:28 PM   #4 (permalink)
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What's interesting is that there is no mention whatsoever in that article about him being a muslim, whilst the bbc story mentions it several times:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8347501.stm


Sad story in any case.
On CNN they talk about it regularly. I think he cracked from PTSD, they need to be paying more attention to stress conditions.
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Old November 6th, 2009, 04:43 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Old November 6th, 2009, 10:06 PM   #6 (permalink)
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On CNN they talk about it regularly. I think he cracked from PTSD, they need to be paying more attention to stress conditions.
PTSD from what? He was never sent overseas, though he was very afraid he would be. Fear of being sent to Iraq can cause PTSD?
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Psychosis, more like. However, you try being a psychiatrist when you are mentally unbalanced and see how well that goes for ya.
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Old November 6th, 2009, 11:23 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Psychosis, more like. However, you try being a psychiatrist when you are mentally unbalanced and see how well that goes for ya.
Actually I think a LOT of people in the mental health profession ARE mentally unbalanced, especially shrinks. The fact that he worked with other psychiatrists and they didn't notice a problem (even though he was outspoken) says a lot.

You know it has to reflect badly on their profession.
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Old November 7th, 2009, 12:55 AM   #9 (permalink)
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his educational achievement surely didnt help him
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Old November 7th, 2009, 01:36 AM   #10 (permalink)
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PTSD from what? He was never sent overseas, though he was very afraid he would be. Fear of being sent to Iraq can cause PTSD?
It might. Maybe not text book, but he hears horror stories for months on end about the place, then he developes an opposing ideology that conflicts with a reality he cannot escape from (his career/contract, maybe his family, the side he wants to be on and the side he is supposed to be on).
Maybe it wasnt what he saw, but what he felt emotionally that overboiled. After all, in the end it's really just a matter of what's going down in your head. And you don't have to go into battle or be "overseas" to develope it. Sometimes, just the wrong (or right, it depends on how you look at it lol) thing can be said or happen to really screw someone up.
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Actually I think a LOT of people in the mental health profession ARE mentally unbalanced, especially shrinks. The fact that he worked with other psychiatrists and they didn't notice a problem (even though he was outspoken) says a lot.

You know it has to reflect badly on their profession.
Well, yea. There has always been a stigma behind shrinks and more often than not it probably ends up being true to some degree that shrinks are fucking nuts, for good reason. To think of it in the terms of a serial killer...

There is an archaic and ironically oftentimes true idea that to understand the heart of a killer, you must become one. Not that I intend to try this out, but it makes sense that a psychiatrist must be quite 'broad' in their sense of understanding and yet detached to the degree where they can truly provide assistance to people who need help in order to best help the patient. BUT, this is more often the exception rather than the rule.

(on account of connecting with those they are trying to get through to, insanity is probably only a stone's throw away for a shrink who doesn't safeguard their sense of self apart from the dilemmas of their patients.)
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Excerpt from a recent CBS News article on the incident:

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At the start of the attack, Hasan reportedly jumped up on a desk and shouted "Allahu akbar!"
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/...ml?tag=topnews

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So are you willing to admit now that Hasan was a terrorist, at least inside his own mind?

I mean, obviously none of these people think of themselves as "terrorists." That's how we label them; it's not their choice of appellation.

Point is, he possesses the same mindset of people whom we choose to call terrorists. He even acts like them, ambush-shooting random people who are unarmed and shopping for groceries (or whatever).
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It has been said he was always loyal towards his sense of military duty but was conflicted in thoughts and loyalties regarding the middle eastern war. Whatever the case, and whatever motivations he had for swaying people towards disfavor regarding the war in that region, he's a terrorist now by virtue of his choice to gun down his comrades. Terror is such a vague term though. Within a certain realm of thinking, the united states government has continually exaggerated this sense of danger and thus became party to the terrorist agenda. And to use that sense of fear to sway popular opinion to get contracts for private businesses.

But yes. I don't know what to think about this right now.

However, I just would lol and piss myself if this guy actually hopped on a table in the fucking middle of a texas military compound hundreds of miles wide and yell "allah ackbar" in the middle of an army barracks. BALLSACK or DEATH WISH?

It was a silly decision to hire this man as a psychologist. He had a history of instability and an agenda which wouldn't appease the American agenda. He couldn't have been called a terrorist merely on this account though. But YES, he is obviously now a terrorist suspect.

We'll see as the whole story emerges
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