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Old October 9th, 2009, 04:28 AM   #31 (permalink)
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It's difficult to find the acceptability involving boundaries between the good that one seemingly brings into the world, via their works, vs. the bad things they do which offset that. It's an unfortunate trade-off for Polanski, as his film work is highly lauded and inspirational on many levels.

it has never been conventional wisdom that brilliant minds don't come with strange kinks and dark sides. It is just another indication that mankind is never perfect, but unique in this case in the way that many will excuse or justify the raping of a 13 year old solely on the premise of artistic merit, or rather the artistic nature of Polanski's films in some way condones rape... this is not right thinking, imho.

Polanski fucked up big time and now it's time he paid the piper. He's lived a long life away from jail, but that time is coming to an end and he'll have to answer to the penal code.

In another sense, the woman who was raped wishes to drop the charges and just avoid the limelight. So the question would be, do we honor the fact this person was sexually assaulted or do we honor her wish for this trial not to proceed?
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Old October 9th, 2009, 01:30 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Well, I truly believe he didn't rape this chick, and that's my personal opinion. I think he was set up for extortion in the first place and it got out of hands.

Let's go over the history of this: Polanski knew this girl's mother, who was a hippie, and her mother introduce her daughter to him and arranged to have her 13-year old child spend a day whole day with (a grown man) Polanski, (who was known at the time to fuck anything it came within reach) alone, in his private residence, to have a "photo shoot".

This girl, who admittedly was sexually active and experimented with drugs and alcohol previous to that day, spent the day with him, agreed to have sexually explicit pictures taken by Polanski, and the "sexual tension" began. He started having cocktails and offered some, which she willingly took, and then he took drugs and offered some to her as well, which she willingly took.

After both being drunk, fucked up and/or all of the above, no one can't tell 100% sure how it went down. That she said no, as meaning I don't want to have sexual intercourse with you, is an unknown fact as I wasn't there, neither were anyone else except them two, and there are no recordings of the situation.

That being said, what he did was illegal, and he went thru the process. He spent time on detention, and whatever happen afterward is a mockery.
The whole trial was tainted, with a judge telling the prosecution and the defense what to say and how things were going to go down as if it was a soap opera where he was the star, with deals made in the chamber that the judge kept changing, with a bunch of bullshit that was ridiculous.

He fled the country only after he got tired of the circus and knew this idiot in charge of the rest of his life was drunk on power and without an ounce of decency to uphold the law and the legal system to keep himself in the spotlight.

Proof is in the pudding. He is 70 something years old, never before and never after has been accused of raping anyone. It is a proven fact real rapists, especially the ones with money and the ego boost that had "beaten the system", surely are to do it over and over again.

Let the bastard alone.
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Old October 9th, 2009, 02:39 PM   #33 (permalink)
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^ This is the most awesome-sounding legal charge I've ever heard of.
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Old October 9th, 2009, 04:13 PM   #34 (permalink)
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On a side note, I remember hearing that Polanski had a relationship with Nastassja Kinski, the daughter of famed actor Klaus Kinski when she was only 15 years old.
Then at the age of 18 in 1979 she starred in his remarkable film, 'Tess'.
She's talked about her teenage relationship with Polanski as a wonderful experience.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nastassja_Kinski
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Old October 10th, 2009, 08:58 AM   #35 (permalink)
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Old October 10th, 2009, 10:25 AM   #36 (permalink)
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Old October 10th, 2009, 01:34 PM   #37 (permalink)
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Its 30 fucking yrs and she got a cash settlement and no longer (if ever) wants to prosecute. I have to think this is an obama attorney generals publicity play.
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Old October 16th, 2009, 05:32 AM   #38 (permalink)
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He fled the country only after he got tired of the circus
He fled because he risked 50 yrs in prison....big difference.
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He fled because he risked 50 yrs in prison....big difference.
Well, he had a deal with the prosecution to serve a small amount of time detained (something like 45 to 90 days I think) and probation, which he served. After that, the judge decided to keep the circus going and change the deal. That's when he fled the country.
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Well i imagine he will be extradited and jailed for rape and for fleeing the country.....the country that took him in and gave him a chance,until he decided that the laws of America didnt apply to him.

yuk yuk....that fuckers going down....in more ways than one.
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In how many ways, would you say, is he going down?
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Old October 17th, 2009, 04:23 PM   #42 (permalink)
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In how many ways, would you say, is he going down?
Well he will be going down for about five years id say.

Then he,ll be going down on Mr big in the showers.

Then the blacks will pass him on down to the Aryan Brotherhood in D-wing and theyll have a go on him.

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Old October 18th, 2009, 02:51 PM   #43 (permalink)
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Have a look at Frances minister for culture.....

His name is Frederic Mitterrand and he is France’s current culture minister. One only has to wonder what type of “culture” this child rapist is promoting to his fellow Frenchmen.
In his 2005 autobiography entitled “The Bad Life,” Mr. Mitterand wrote: “I got into the habit of paying for boys… All these rituals of the market for youths, the slave market excite me enormously.”

He added: “One could judge this abominable spectacle from a moral standpoint but it pleases me beyond the reasonable.”

And finally: “The profusion of very attractive and immediately available young boys puts me in a state of desire that I no longer need to hinder nor hide… as I know that I will not be refused.”

How could such a man have escaped justice much less become a member of President Sarkozy’s cabinet? It was only in June that he joined the cabinet and “was considered a great catch for Mr. Sarkozy and proof of his ‘open’ style of government; the minister comes from a grand Socialist family and is admired by many in the Left-wing cultural establishment. Carla Bruni-Sarkozy, the first lady, was said to have had a hand in his nomination.” (1)

What respect does this man deserve especially among the “cultural establishment”? Clearly, his cultural preferences are despicable. The rule of law would dictate that he be prosecuted for his crime at the victim’s discretion. Any Frenchmen with a sense of preserving their liberty should demand he be subject to the same punishment they themselves would be. Have we really reached a point where the common man is judged to a different standard than the cultural and political elite? Can a civilized society exist where the prosecution for rape occurs on the one hand but not on the other?

I am perplexed about how France could have degraded to such an extent that the protection of innocent children is no longer viewed as sacrosanct. Indeed, the most important responsibility of any government should be to protect the minority from the tyranny of the majority. What more important and defenseless minority do we have than our children? It is their right to freedom from coercion and manipulation, especially into sexual acts by an adult majority, which should be guarded most vociferously.

“Bear in mind this sacred principle, that though the will of the majority is in all cases to prevail, that will to be rightful must be reasonable; that the minority possess their equal rights, which equal law must protect, and to violate would be oppression.” – Thomas Jefferson

To top it all off, guess who has been the most ardent defender of Roman Polanski? Why, none other than Mr. Mitterrand. He called Mr. Polanski’s latest ordeal “callous” and “absolutely horrifying.” No, Mr. Mitterand, you and Mr. Polanski are what I would call “absolutely horrifying.” Indeed, you expect that your actions should be judged by a different standard of whether you were able to get away with it or not. Only an elitist such as yourself would expect such a standard. As you put it, “I no longer need to hinder nor hide…as I know that I will not be refused.” Since when in our society has the rules of our behavior been judged by whether we were refused or not? Clearly, for Mr. Mitterand and among many of the elites, this is so. Would we be afforded the same leniency? I sincerely doubt it.
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Very interesting SE10, what a creep he is - thanks for the info.
For many years I've heard of people in positions of power like this man, being involved in perverted debauchery.
The movie by Pasolini - 'Salo -120 Days of Sodom' is a good example.
From ancient times it's been reported that Emperors and Caesars, Kings, Queens, Baronesses have all abused their position and found pleasure in the flesh of young people.
Naturally I don't condone it, but because it is such a part of human history none of this really shocks me.

It seems like the rich and perverted protect one another and there is a kind of club or brotherhood.
This is great fodder for conspiracy theorists, but at the same time it's all very well documented.
I can't imagine what can be done about it.
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The French and the Polish are outraged by this and they should be. So should we. Polanski's mother died in a concentration camp, his wife was pregnant and then slaughtered by the Manson family. Roman's life wasn't the easiest.

He had consensual sex with a 13 yr old girl. In America, this is so taboo but really, his values aren't like ours. Should he have obeyed the American laws? Of course, but hey...he went through the proper punishment. However, he was bound to get screwed over so he left. Now 30 something years later he's arrested again? Such nonsense. Let him go.

The girl is now a woman and has forgiven Roman.

It's time we forgive an icon such as himself as well.
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