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Old September 2nd, 2009, 03:35 AM   #76 (permalink)
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c mo,Then you don't know many animal lovers.
Actually, you're wrong.

Most animal lovers don't like PETA because PETA is an extremist group of crazies, and does more harm than good to the animal rights movement by giving the whole shebang a bad reputation.

PETA's headquarters are a five minute drive from my house. I'm loosely acquainted with a few of its more notable staff members, some of whom live in or near my neighborhood, and many of my personal friends are into new age shit, veganism, nature conservancy, and animal rights.

I don't give a damn about new age shit or veganism, but I do believe in sensible nature conservancy and the protection of basic animal rights... just not the stupid shit PETA is always getting up to.
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Old September 2nd, 2009, 03:36 AM   #77 (permalink)
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lol. ESL. Your sig really points a rather clear picture of what you think on this topic, at large. Whether or not you said "ALL PEOPLE SHOULD LOVE PETA" was not the main point I was trying to make. The fact you responded to a piece of information I didn't provide and didn't bother responding to the rest of the post leads me to the belief that you were attempting a rather arbitrary strawman.


What I am getting at is the difference between your perspective and mine. There are quite a few people here who don't have any sense of humanity, laughing when humans die but bitch and moan when an animal dies. How does this mean "EVERYBODY SHOULD LOVE PETA?"


Even if you weren't intent on responding to any other points of my post, you might've mentioned that you weren't going to respond to any valid points before I spent the time it took in responding.


For future reference, when you don't clarify why you are responding to a post, and then back track, you'll invariably give someone the silly idea that you have no point to be made.
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Old September 2nd, 2009, 03:44 AM   #78 (permalink)
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Why would i care about your perspective? You said that I said we should all love PETA, I corrected you. End of discussion (with you).
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I think animals deserve to be fucking killed and tortured, not for any noble cause either! Just coz they suck and are dumb!
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Old September 2nd, 2009, 03:49 AM   #79 (permalink)
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You can stop the 20 line paragraph as well, because like your last 2 posts I'm not going to read more than one line of it.
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Old September 2nd, 2009, 03:51 AM   #80 (permalink)
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There are quite a few people here who don't have any sense of humanity, laughing when humans die but bitch and moan when an animal dies.
WHO DOES THAT?!

In my own defense, it's pretty hard to hate, say, a dog. As a domesticated species, they're loyal, playful, easygoing, and just generally beyond reproach by human standards. There's no such thing as a bad dog, only a bad owner.

When a dog is tortured and/or killed by human beings, you can rest assured that they're blameless, and that they don't understand why they're being hurt. They're innocents, in other words.

Humans, on the other hand... humans are easy to hate, for a wide variety of reasons. It's primarily due to high intelligence and self-awareness, which allows people to think, plan and do things that OTHER people will despise... such as, for example, crushing a kitten underneath your high heels and filming it for the Internet.

It's much harder to feel empathy for a species that is, on the whole, still essentially a bunch of evil, brutal primates who vacuum up far more resources from the rest of the planet than any other creature, and are intelligent enough to be AWARE of their actions, yet delight in it anyway.
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Old September 2nd, 2009, 04:48 AM   #81 (permalink)
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Why would i care about your perspective? You said that I said we should all love PETA, I corrected you. End of discussion (with you).
You can't correct something you can't grasp.

It seems you are relatively inexperienced with debating. I am surprised.

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FYI, the whole point of debate is actually posting talking points to defend a belief, which I've done and you've failed to do. But in your mind, the idea that you think you know what you're talking about is a means to ignore every point you can't answer...

It doesn't matter what your perspective is, it matters how you defend that sense of perspective. You haven't even come close to doing this. Whatever.
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I'm not here to debate with you, you are no good at arguing and make boring points.
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Old September 2nd, 2009, 05:22 AM   #83 (permalink)
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Well, mystery solved.
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Old September 2nd, 2009, 05:26 AM   #84 (permalink)
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Peta goes way overboard on a lot of animals rights issues they do some good but come on it was just a fly get over it I am an animal rights activists but no way would i ever become a member of peta or send them one nickel shit if i was a member of peta they would take all my companion animals away from me and thats just fucked up I think and believe that ALF animal liberation front does a lot more good for the animals then peta will ever do
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