British want guns back.

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Originally Posted by AmericanNationalist

No. Because with out the people, they have nothing.Hence why government offices,schools,police departments have had to significantly downsize or shut down all over the US due to the economy. World history is full of governments being overthrown.

ha ha ha

Do you actually think there is a chance that the citizens of the United States could overthrow the government in this day and age...??? really? you are a fool if you think so. You should know better. In your line of work, especially.

Ah yes. The people are what make this country what it is... right??? Isn't that right? These people of such humble origins have a chance to change things don't they??? The "educated" masses. These are the same people who don't give 2 shits about you and what you fight for. The people who are reproducing at a rate which far exceeds not only AMERICA'S resources but the resources of the natural world... the same intelligence quotient that has decided that war is all there is... and has recently decided that there shouldn't be war... you are counting on THEM? You are counting on people who don't know who and what they are to make difference. You are counting on people who don't have the intelligence to make educated objective ideas work.. people who are absolutely expendable... you count on these people to bring about positive change? you are fooling yourself. You have no power. Neither do I. None of us do.

You control nothing. you are nothing. Neither am I.

What I have that you do not, is an understanding that my well-wishes for this planet will go unheeded. And beyond that, whatever ideas we have beyond providing a better existence for those around us is raped and murdered from the time we are brought into this world by people who CONTROL US. People that OWN US. The mega corporations... the NEW WORLD ORDER. You and I are smaller than fleas. We have nothing. We don't even own our lives. You should know this.

Our existence is merely by good grace. The average citizen accounts for NOTHING. They mean nothing. They take up no space on the universal fiscal register. They have no real power. You think b/c your indomitable spirit declares differently, that you are some kind of exception?

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Originally Posted by JPJ

I understand, however completely disagree. This is ridiculous at best and is certainly tilting the scales of fairness in favour of the criminal.
I just stood and faced in one direction and quickly turned in the opposite direction... this may have taken one half second tops.
This is the time window that separates the perpetrator from the victim in a court of law?
Sounds like the cards are stacked in favour of the bad guy.
I can't help but wonder had his wife or child been killed, would the no shots to the back rule have applied?
I mean think about it, seriously... for instance...
You come home, a man is in your house and has raped or killed your wife, and you pull out a gun and he runs like a mofo... can you shoot him?
I mean, he isn't threatening your life or anything.
In my world, he is a dead motherfucker.

And just a stones throw away in Rochester N.Y. a 23 yr. old police officer was...
Shot in the back of the head...After walking away from a call...without even...
A ticket issued...That is right...I don't give a fuck...come in my house...
I would rather kill you...Hand to Hand...Mutha-Fuckka...

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Originally Posted by AmericanNationalist

Oh please, tell me about common sense

Originally Posted by AmericanNationalist

You tout a communist negro as president, and talk about how smart and great he is. He's not smart. He's just a dumb coon.

Here you are touting your opinion as fact, per usual.

Originally Posted by AmericanNationalist

If you have so much sense, tell me one. Just ONE example of compentent black government on Gods green earth.

your stupidity lies in the fact that you somehow proclaim that one race is superior to another... one race is meant to dominate. According to some very small minded scheme, you might be correct. However, THIS is the extent of your intelligence. Obama is a MUCH smarter man than you. Deal with it.

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"Obama is a MUCH smarter man than you. Deal with it."
Age makes one wise...Kissnger...Was he a good Jew...???

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People of simple minded nature, can't admit to any wrongdoing. It's within their nature to deny culpability.

[AmericanNationalist]

Originally Posted by Kalamnity

ha ha ha

Do you actually think there is a chance that the citizens of the United States could overthrow the government in this day and age...??? really? you are a fool if you think so. You should know better. In your line of work, especially.

Ah yes. The people are what make this country what it is... right??? Isn't that right? These people of such humble origins have a chance to change things don't they??? The "educated" masses. These are the same people who don't give 2 shits about you and what you fight for. The people who are reproducing at a rate which far exceeds not only AMERICA'S resources but the resources of the natural world... the same intelligence quotient that has decided that war is all there is... and has recently decided that there shouldn't be war... you are counting on THEM? You are counting on people who don't know who and what they are to make difference. You are counting on people who don't have the intelligence to make educated objective ideas work.. people who are absolutely expendable... you count on these people to bring about positive change? you are fooling yourself. You have no power. Neither do I. None of us do.

You control nothing. you are nothing. Neither am I.

What I have that you do not, is an understanding that my well-wishes for this planet will go unheeded. And beyond that, whatever ideas we have beyond providing a better existence for those around us is raped and murdered from the time we are brought into this world by people who CONTROL US. People that OWN US. The mega corporations... the NEW WORLD ORDER. You and I are smaller than fleas. We have nothing. We don't even own our lives. You should know this.

Our existence is merely by good grace. The average citizen accounts for NOTHING. They mean nothing. They take up no space on the universal fiscal register. They have no real power. You think b/c your indomitable spirit declares differently, that you are some kind of exception?

I'm not going to respond to this quote by quote.

But you're right. The reason why we are in all these wars is to secure natural resources for corporate banks. The same type that unconstitutionally issues the money we spend.

And throughout history,"well-fed" and prosperous societies have been apathetic. But in case you havent noticed, our economy is tanking, people everywhere are out of work and losing their homes, our government is going against the will of the people,people are losing their livelyhoods due to further government encroachment, and there are already "pockets" of resistance coming forth. No, they are hardly united. And to believe a struggle could be won using the same tactics and force would be beyond niave. But its there, and its starting. The United States won't be one country for much longer. Mark my words.

your stupidity lies in the fact that you somehow proclaim that one race is superior to another... one race is meant to dominate.

YOUR stupidity lies in the fact you believe what you just typed. I respect all races and cultures,really.And I judge individuals individually.

But when different ethnic groups are forced to live together, tensions rise. So its only right for me to watch out for my own. I don't wish to be "supreme", just seperate.

According to some very small minded scheme, you might be correct. However, THIS is the extent of your intelligence. Obama is a MUCH smarter man than you. Deal with it.

Really? My IQ is 125. And you only believe he's some sort of genius because your idiot box told you so.

But hey, at least he's transparent,(to me at least).

BTW, are you going to quote me a good example or not?

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Originally Posted by Peterpigman

Well not really, English law allows "self defense" Ie. if he had shot them in the face or whatever and he was afraid for his life he would have got away with it.

The use of deadly force works the same was in the US.

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Originally Posted by AmericanNationalist

I respect all races and cultures,really.And I judge individuals individually.But when different ethnic groups are forced to live together, tensions rise. So its only right for me to watch out for my own. I don't wish to be "supreme", just seperate.

I've seen this mask being worn before thats bullshit and you know it. You respect no race or culture but your own and almost every other post you make shows it. There is only tension because of the certain attitude or vibe you project that others pick up on. My building has students and families from all over and I get along with them just fine. Africans, Mexicans, Indians, and Japanese just off the top of my head. Your hate is palpable.

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Originally Posted by deadpuppet

I've seen this mask being worn before thats bullshit and you know it. You respect no race or culture but your own and almost every other post you make shows it. There is only tension because of the certain attitude or vibe you project that others pick up on. My building has students and families from all over and I get along with them just fine. Africans, Mexicans, Indians, and Japanese just off the top of my head. Your hate is palpable.

That is community, during times of disaster people drop the racist BS


disclaimer: let's exclude Katrina

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It depends, Torque. Often when disaster strikes, the true savage, territorial, and tribal nature of people comes out, and the phony tolerance BS goes out the window. Depends though.

Originally Posted by deadpuppet

I've seen this mask being worn before thats bullshit and you know it. You respect no race or culture but your own and almost every other post you make shows it. There is only tension because of the certain attitude or vibe you project that others pick up on. My building has students and families from all over and I get along with them just fine. Africans, Mexicans, Indians, and Japanese just off the top of my head. Your hate is palpable.

I love it when people get on their tolerance pedestals.
At least hate is real. Most so-called "tolerance" is phony. There are different kinds of tolerance and different kinds of hate. And everyone displays their hate and tolerance on here.

You cannot hate without loving first. You love your family, friends, culture, expression, whatever. You hate those who try to get in the way of that love. You hate those who cause you to hate, if you are intelligent. Doesn't mean you have to hate everyone or act like an asshole to everyone though. Some of the biggest proponents of so-called "tolerance" on here are some of the most callous and intolerant people I've ever seen, and it's that way in real life as well, so it's not all down to "internet personas."

Hate and love are such subjective words anyway. I don't heed them when they are spewed often.

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For instance, I like a lot of music and other things that alot of people wouldn't think that I do or am supposed to because of things that I say. But I'm not going to let anyone quantify what I believe or do and live my life on that. Fuck them.

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Either you give everyone guns, or you let no one have guns.

Based on past history and crime statistics in countries that allow guns, I'd rather go with the "no guns at all" option, personally.

Mind you, the other way works well in Switzerland. I guess it's down to national temperament.

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Exactly. Too many idiots have guns, but the criminals will just get em anyway. Like they give a fuck about the laws. So many people would have them buried, just like they already are, out in the desert and so forth, like the survivalists and end-of-times people have.

The popular bravado right-wing saying goes "They can have my gun when they pry it from my cold dead hands."
Don't worry, they will.

Scenario: If a big army truck rode down the street and a dude on a bullhorn said "OK, let's have all the guns now!" and maybe only a few guns come out.
Then, he grabs someone from their house, takes them out in the middle of the street, pulls a pistol out and blows dude's brains out all over the street, and says "OK, now let's have ALL THE GUNS!"

I think they'd all come out. The way people are now, of course.

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GUNS RULE,


people kill people


It was guns that cleared up the oppressive brit problems in the colonies back in 1776.

Citizens vs subjects, I'd rather be a citizen everyday of the week and lawful citizens are allowed to own guns and ammunition. America was founded on right to bare arms.